Milestone-Proposal talk:Apollo 11 Lunar Ranging Experiment (LURE)
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Discussion -- Jbart64 (talk) 23:11, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
I am the advocate to this Milestone proposal. After reviewing all submitted materials and reviewing scientific reports, I supplied additional material to the proposer which has been included in the citation's supporting documentation. My comments and edits have also been incorporated into the final proposed wording.
I fully support this Milestone on two separate grounds: (1) the KORAD laser utilized in LURE represents its own scientific and engineering achievement, and (2) the experiment involved direct human interaction and equipment placed by human hands onto an extraterrestrial object. Both of these are "firsts": the invention and the human interaction involving an experiment conducted from earth with equipment placed directly onto the moon by people.
The plaque will be located at Lick Observatory, site of the experiment, with a second copy near the KORAD laser invention site. The precise location of the copy plaque is being finalized. Since the main plaque's location is selected and supported, the milestone is ready for approval regardless of whether the duplicate plaque is ever placed. Planning for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 is underway. Therefore, I recommend approval of the milestone for placement at the Lick Observatory location. I also recommend conditional approval of the right to place a second copy near the KORAD invention site with the precise location to be be reviewed by the history committee at a later date if it so desires.
The proposal is adequately described and supported by the references cited. The citation wording is concise and quite clear about the significance of the achievement being claimed. Consequently, I support approval. Dave Bart
Statement from Brian Berg and Dr. Elinor Gates -- Bberg (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
I am Brian Berg, and I prepared the LURE proposal with help from Brian Hagerty (Southern California Council Chair) and Dr. Elinor Gates (Staff Astronomer at Lick Observatory). Dr Gates' research work at Lick includes Laser Guide Star Adaptive Optics, Near-Infrared Camera Technologies, and Quasar Host Galaxies.
Dr. Gates is very familiar with the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment that took place here at the time of the Apollo 11 mission. She gave me an extensive behind-the-scenes tour of the Donald Shane 3-meter reflecting telescope building, which is where the LURE took place in July and August, 1969. She provided many of the materials cited in the LURE Milestone proposal. She read through the proposal in its entirety, and informed me that she agreed with the information as presented, as well as the text of the citation.
Statement Directly from Dr. Elinor Gates -- Bberg (talk) 19:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
My name is Dr. Elinor Gates, and I have been a Staff Astronomer at Lick Observatory for 20 years. Lick Observatory is in the hills above San Jose and Silicon Valley. My research work at Lick includes Laser Guide Star Adaptive Optics, Near-Infrared Camera Technologies, and Quasar Host Galaxies.
I am very familiar with the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment that took place here at the time of the Apollo 11 mission. I gave Brian Berg (LURE Milestone proposer) an extensive tour of the Donald Shane 3 meter reflecting telescope building, which is where the Lick Observatory portion of LURE took place in July and August, 1969. I provided some of the materials cited in the LURE Milestone proposal, and I read through the proposal in its entirety. I agree with the information as presented, as well as the text of the citation.
--- Elinor Gates, Ph.D. Office: 408-238-9610 email@example.com Cell: 408-202-1691 Lick Observatory, Mount Hamilton, CA 95140